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 Post subject: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:29 pm 
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So I have managed to complete a full set of Zocchi dice in the geometric configuration I prefer:

d3: d6 number 1-3 twice
d4: standard
d5: d10 numbered 1-5 twice
d6: standard
d7: d14 numbered 1-7 twice (Koplow)
d8: standard
d10: standard
d12: standard
d14: Zocchi standard from Gamescience
d16: Zocchi standard from Gamescience
d20: standard
d24: Zocchi standard from Gamescience
d30: d30 from Koplow

You'd think I'd be happy. But, owing to my OCD, I am having a hard time coming to grips with the d7 and d30 because they dwarf my other dice. Short of building a 3D printer and making them myself, does anyone know of a good source for a normal sized d7 (being a d14 numbered 1-7 twice), or d30s. I wish I could bring myself to use the Dicenomicon at the table, but I just can't. It's just the way I am wired. :!:


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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:39 am 
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I think ARMORY has more reasonably sized d30's--25mm. The Koplow d30 is 34mm according to gamestation's "advanced dice finder" search engine. I don't like the bigger d30's either. The dice finder seems to only show the 25mm d30's with the sharp edges, but I know I have seen smaller regular d30's as well, I have one. I think the armory sells those as well. Good luck!

http://www.gamestation.net/Advanced-Sea ... ny&size=11


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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:46 pm 
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None of the Armory d30s are available any more; Gamescience haven't had any in stock on that page for a very long time, and when last I e-mailed them, they had no plans (or were unable) to make any more.

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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:03 pm 
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I might be able to help on this one. I can't come to grips with certain attempts at manufactured dice either.

From what I was reading The Armory (Baltimore Maryland), merged with Chessex in 1998, however Chessex does not manufacture precision dice (much to my dismay). This is why the Armory d30 dice are as rare as hen’s teeth. However, Chessex does make their version of a 26mm d30 which is available on their site and some others I've seen on the interwebs.

http://www.chessex.com/Dice/Specialty%2 ... _sided.htm

For a d7, I can't stand the shape of Gamescience's pentagonal prisms... the white version makes me nauseous, (not to mention the cost) and I don’t like the color of the pips or the fact that you read half a pip as a whole number. (I just roll a precision d14, for numbers 8 or greater subtract 7 from the result.)
Now if you are into some really stylish math check out this concept: gyroelongated heptagonal bipyramid, or lat-long polyisohedrons. One day everyone will have one... now where is my warm Dr. Pepper?


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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:24 am 
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Yeah, I agree. I have some d30's that are simply gigantic and I hate to even try to lug them around in my dice bag, and while I love the "numbered twice" dice I bought from the e-bay thread on the boards I'm not thrilled that the d14's are so huge. (One is 1-14, the other 1-7 twice.)

They just don't "feel" right. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:53 am 
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Yeah the gamescience d14s are the best, really. I have some gamescience d7s ... they're okay, kinda hard to read as was mentioned. But we haven't used them very much yet, so not a big deal.

I like the gamescience d16s, but really would like some that were just a bit larger, frankly, more d20-ish in size, just to make them a bit easier to read. And I need a bunch more of them. Anybody want to put up some lots of like 6-8 d16s at a time? heh.

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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:08 am 
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Or you could go in the other direction and make sure they're all oversized.

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(My DCC dice. Not shown are the 3d6 that are the same size.)

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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
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Ughh Koplow make the ugliest dice ever.

I lost my D30 a few months ago walking home and have not found a replacement yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
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I have both types of dice, and I use them both. Neither one bothers me in the slightest.

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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
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I have thought about buying a set of those big poly dice. Now I'm really inspired to track one down! 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
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Someplace on the Intertubes, I told the story of my conversation from the nice gentleman at Kaplow who explained why the d14 (and d7 of the same shape numbered twice) are as large as they are...but I can't find it.

Suffice it to say they were caught off guard by the demand (not knowing about DCC - Fools!) and when they started getting requests last year (GenCon 2011 - from me for one) they had dice molds with 14 sides for educational use...having pictures of continents on them. So the dice had to be larger so the picture could be viewed.

So I put in another request this year to make 14-siders numbered 1-14 and 1-7 twice of a normal size. We'll see how much influence I have... ;)


Oh..and I told them about DCC and how they really should make these dice because the demand is only going to go up.....

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Jim Skach wrote:
Someplace on the Intertubes, I told the story of my conversation from the nice gentleman at Kaplow who explained why the d14 (and d7 of the same shape numbered twice) are as large as they are...but I can't find it.

Suffice it to say they were caught off guard by the demand (not knowing about DCC - Fools!) and when they started getting requests last year (GenCon 2011 - from me for one) they had dice molds with 14 sides for educational use...having pictures of continents on them. So the dice had to be larger so the picture could be viewed.

So I put in another request this year to make 14-siders numbered 1-14 and 1-7 twice of a normal size. We'll see how much influence I have... ;)


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Oh..and I told them about DCC and how they really should make these dice because the demand is only going to go up.....


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 Post subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Dice of Normal Size
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Jim Skach wrote:
I told them about DCC and how they really should make these dice because the demand is only going to go up.....
That would be a good thing. I like the quality of their dice better than the gamescience ones, even with the larger size.

I think that eventually we'll get better dice selection options and the funky dice will become more commonplace, just like regular polyhedral dice have become. I remember in the 1970's having the same problem when D&D first came out and the only dice on the market were those cheap plastic ones in rainbow colors. Didn't take long for somebody to start making better dice, and now the color choices are staggering. 8)

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