Here..There...Everywhere

Ralph the Dog · Post by **Ralph the Dog** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:24 pm

Are there going to be "worldbooks" about America, The New Reich, etc?

And what about timelines..will be able to read about people were important ? (Edison, Einstein, Churchill..etc.)

yperiwn · Post by **yperiwn** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:19 am

I guess they existed but they weren't as great as they our in our world. Churchil would have been just another politician if there wasn't the WWII. Of course if you are the DM you can change all this and use them in whatever way you want.

Malladin_Nigel · Post by **Malladin_Nigel** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:28 pm

Are there going to be "worldbooks" about America, The New Reich, etc?

We,ve certainly got enough depth of background, theme and metaplot significance to write them

And what about timelines..will be able to read about people were important ? (Edison, Einstein, Churchill..etc.)

I guess they existed but they weren't as great as they our in our world. Churchil would have been just another politician if there wasn't the WWII. Of course if you are the DM you can change all this and use them in whatever way you want.

Thats a great observation. We had a great conversation about Joseph Stalin the other day, which revolved around would he would have to be evil. My personal view was that if it was right for the setting he could be lovable Uncle Joe delivering presents to Moscows orphans at Christmas. And DMs can do what they like whatever we write, its the joy of roleplaying

yperiwn · Post by **yperiwn** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:01 am

Yesterday night I had a talk with some friends about history and the whole issue settled that communist of the 20th cen is just like chistianity of the 1st-3rd cen. Both had a vision of a more just world where equality would be the rule and not the exception and in the end both were used by the political and social status quo to reinforce it. The person who did that in the case of christianity was Constantine the Great whereas in the case of communist it was Stalin.
Following this way of thinking I can hardly see Stalin being a good person, but neither an evil person, he is a kick-ass politician. I consider most politician chaotic neutral( they care mainly about their well-being but if they can do something good that doesn't harm their interest they have no problem doing so) and that brings him in this category.

Malladin_Nigel · Post by **Malladin_Nigel** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:01 pm

Yesterday night I had a talk with some friends about history and the whole issue settled that communist of the 20th cen is just like chistianity of the 1st-3rd cen. Both had a vision of a more just world where equality would be the rule and not the exception and in the end both were used by the political and social status quo to reinforce it. The person who did that in the case of christianity was Constantine the Great whereas in the case of communist it was Stalin.
Following this way of thinking I can hardly see Stalin being a good person, but neither an evil person, he is a kick-ass politician. I consider most politician chaotic neutral( they care mainly about their well-being but if they can do something good that doesn't harm their interest they have no problem doing so) and that brings him in this category.

Interesting. One of the things about Russia in Etherscope is they haven't done a bad job of realising the communist ideal and are probably the nation closest to being the good guys in the world. That takes strong willed political leaders, a catagory Stalin certainly falls into! We have actually discussed and planned, somewhat more seriously than my comments above, Stalins role in that, balancing the real man versus the nature of the timeline. If we do a world book or books I suspect you'll find his role in history quite interesting.

Ralph the Dog · Post by **Ralph the Dog** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:44 pm

I never had much of a chance to read Das Kapital, but doesn't the breeding of a worker class fly in the face of communism?

I mean how can the workers control the factories if they're considered part of the equipment?

Please note..that I didn't say my non-reading of Das Kapital was due to my bad Marx in my political science glass..

malladin_ben · Post by **malladin_ben** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:54 pm

Oh yes, the Russians are very much opposed to the use of Transgenics. I think they could even be a haven for fleeing transgenics, where they would be treated as equals.

Ben

yperiwn · Post by **yperiwn** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:56 am

Lots of things represented in the Etherscope universe are an anathema to the socialist way of thinking. As I see the whole thing Russia would be a safe haven for those with a more liberal mind.

Ralph the Dog · Post by **Ralph the Dog** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:44 pm

malladin_ben wrote:Oh yes, the Russians are very much opposed to the use of Transgenics. I think they could even be a haven for fleeing transgenics, where they would be treated as equals.

Ben

So it's like Casablanca then?? Would the powers that be send in rescue teams to liberate transgenics?

btw..With all possible pollution..what is the state of "green" politics in Etherscope?

yperiwn · Post by **yperiwn** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:46 am

Dude the great metropolis is an expanding wasteland, the old continenet is full of over poluted cities and the US do not know what polution means. As I see it, the ecological movement hasn't been born yet.

Ralph the Dog · Post by **Ralph the Dog** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:05 pm

I think "green politics" would start as soon as the pollution would start causing illness and squalid living conditions.

It would probably start with the upper classes, perhaps diletantes rebelling against their parents or members of the working class who are experiencing the pollution first hand.

yperiwn · Post by **yperiwn** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:01 pm

It would probably start with the upper classes

No chance at all these are you get money for pollution