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bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by Raorgen » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:05 am

Sorry if I'm missing this in an obvious place. I see on some monsters an indication of stats above 18 (ogre has 22 strength, which is +6 mod), but I don't see a table that lists the stats above 18 with their associated bonuses. Where can I find this?

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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by Vanguard » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:07 am

There is no table for this. I handle stat bonuses above 18 differently than just giving more mechanical bonuses and instead allow my players to pick 1 ability from the list below.

-When using any ability rooted in this stat, the player rolls +1d on the die chain
-When using any ability rooted in this stat, the player rolls 2d10 instead of a D20
-If the stat is Strength or Agility, the player may re-roll damage rolls
-If the stat is Personality, a Cleric may re-roll the damage healed from their Lay on Hands check
-If the stat is Intelligence, a Wizard or Elf may re-roll their spell damage
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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by Raven_Crowking » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:18 am

There is an extended Ability Score chart in MCC; I will try to copy it when I get a chance.
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Cathbad the Meek (herbalist Wizard 1): AC 9; 4 hp; S 7, A 7, St 10, P 17, I 13, L 8; Neutral; Club, herbs, 50' rope, 50 cp; -1 to melee attack rolls. Hideous scar.

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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by GnomeBoy » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:25 am

Raorgen wrote:Where can I find this?
Some things are meant to be flexible, so you can handle them as you see fit, or adapt them to the circumstances at hand and change them when the circumstances are different. You will find other such "undefined" corners of the rules... 8)
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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by Raven_Crowking » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:07 am

19 +3
20-21 +4
22-23 +5
24 +6
SoBH pbp:

Cathbad the Meek (herbalist Wizard 1): AC 9; 4 hp; S 7, A 7, St 10, P 17, I 13, L 8; Neutral; Club, herbs, 50' rope, 50 cp; -1 to melee attack rolls. Hideous scar.

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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by Raorgen » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:21 am

Thanks for the info and ideas.

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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by ThickSkullAdv » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:18 pm

Interesting as I was just researching this this weekend. I was going to write up a longer post on this, but I think the DCC Core Rulebook is inconsistent.

In the Ogre Entry:
In single combat, an ogre grasps its enemy in a mighty bear
hug to break his spine. If an ogre lands a slam successfully,
its opponent must succeed at an opposed Strength check
against the ogre’s 22 Strength (+6).

... that would put the upper bonuses close to the 3E SRD bonus, but the lower bonuses don't match what's in the core rulebook. These bonuses are higher than those listed in the 1ED Deities and Demigods which is where I first saw the upper stats published back in the day.

Probably best to go with the MCC version despite it not jiving for The Ogre.
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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by BanjoJohn » Tue May 21, 2019 3:39 am

I house rule it as, every point above 18 increases by +1. So:
19 +4
20 +5
21 +6
22 +7, etc.

This just keeps it simple, and I generally ignore the book if it contradicts this because I haven't seen any official stance on ability scores beyond 18.

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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by herecomethejudge » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:23 am

BanjoJohn wrote:I house rule it as, every point above 18 increases by +1. So:
19 +4
20 +5
21 +6
22 +7, etc.

This just keeps it simple, and I generally ignore the book if it contradicts this because I haven't seen any official stance on ability scores beyond 18.
Makes sense to me too.

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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by ThickSkullAdv » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:57 pm

After some research, I'd recommend using the table created by Mutant Crawl Classics which actually took the stats higher:

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Re: bonuses for stats beyond 18

Post by herecomethejudge » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:56 am

ThickSkullAdv wrote:After some research, I'd recommend using the table created by Mutant Crawl Classics which actually took the stats higher:

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That makes even more sense. I printed that out and stuck it in my DCC Core Rules.

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