Re: 2012: Transylvanian Adventures & The Transylvanian Grimo
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:17 am
Awesome list and recommendations from RevTurkey and Karaptis. I'll have to hunt some of those down.
Thanks for the suggestions. I agree that Charger and Redeemable are the two class names that make me cringe a bit. Rogue would be perfect for the Redeemable. But it does carry some baggage from later editions.Deadstop wrote:If it hadn't already acquired a meaning in D&D circles, I'd say that "Rogue" would fit perfectly as a name for the current Redeemable class, but I can see why you might not want to use it.
The Charger is the one that's pretty much a straight combat monster, right? Would "Slayer" work better? That has a bit of pedigree in monster-hunting circles. Of course, there's the danger that it could be taken for a supernaturally powered archetype in the vein of Buffy.
I like all the other class names, even (especially) Valiant. If you wanted a more descriptive name for that one, though, you could go with something like "Everyman," though that might better describe all 0-level characters.
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.HiroTsukasa wrote:Not to be "that guy" but personally I kind of like the Class names as is. How many fantasy games does the world need with the Paladin, Rogue, etc? To me, the current ones feel pretty evocative of the genre the game's trying to emulate. Of course, at the end of the day names are just names. Whether it is one way or another, any Judge could fluff the class names to be whatever they wished so it's not a big issue in my eyes.
Nice suggestions, Liu Jen. Thanks for sharing them.Liu Jen Hao wrote:Having a try at Class Names.
The Valiant is not so much a daredevil as an Everyman. In fact, that was the classes' original name. But I changed it because The Valiant is more often a woman in Gothic fiction than a man. I like Valiant as is. It also coincides nicely with one of my favorite tag-teams from the 70s. So there's a bit of an easter egg in there for me.Liu Jen Hao wrote:Valiant = Daredevil or Fearless. Hits the player on a more emotional level than an intellectual level.
Night-born is a very compelling suggestion. So is Half-Blood. I'd wonder if 'Night-Born' would make people think more of the Dhampyr with this class, instead of the other possibilities. I'd also wonder if that concern is unfounded because that's what most people would think anyway, regardless of what the class is called...Liu Jen Hao wrote:Half-Breed = Night-Born. Closer to the point without, once again, the unfortnate implications of "Half-blood" which to this day is associated with "Mullato."
Not all Redeemables are atoning for something. The title suggests more that there is something about them that makes them worthy or capable of redemption. It's the lovable rogue sort of character. Not necessarily a character with a checkered past who feels bad about it. That's something a player would decide.Liu Jen Hao wrote:Redeemable = Atoner. It is after all the character's journey from villainy to heroism, after all.
The Survivor survives because that's what she does. The classes don't have abilities that kick in at a certain level. That's not how they're built. No one has to wait to 3rd level to do something because the classes are all front-loaded. TA/TG characters are cool right now, not cool in a couple of levels.Liu Jen Hao wrote:Survivor = Although perfect and to the point as it is, the nerd in me suggests "Last-Man-Standing" (Roy Schielder from "Jaws") or Last-Woman-Standing (Ripley from "Aliens" or Mina Murray from "Dracula")
By the way, just to make sure, is there a cinematic ability for the Survior that actually makes her more powerful/smart/resourceful/brave as the party is whittled down to just her? Maybe a 10th-Level ability called "Last-Man-Standing/Last-Woman-Standing"
VOODOO CHICKEN?!Karaptis wrote:I usually care more about my Players' character names. I read some terrible ones over the years. Someone tried to walk a Dark Sun character on with the name Voodoo Chicken. That makes for some serious role playing there!
Worth noting that the sneak peekers only have a little over 1/2 the book. I'm about 1/3 to 1/2 through the Monsters section now. It's currently at 18,000 words.finarvyn wrote:1) This thing is huge. Over a hundred pages.
Of those lists and ranked on a scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being "I don't like it as much as the original classname" and 5 being "strong consideration to change it right now...grald_the_hunter wrote:The only class names I really don't like are the charger, valiant, and the redeemable, because none really seem to evoke what these classes are about.
It's difficult because we know so little about the book so far (relatively). But let's try to think of some other names. Some of these have been mentioned before.
Redeemable: Swashbuckler, Bravo, Gaucho, Caballero, Tainted (Taintable?), Puissant, Acrobat, Aerialist, Tumbler, Folk Hero. This one could go many different ways depending on what the actual class features are.
Charger: Brute, Brick, Reaver (personal favorite), Unstopppable, Bloodstained, Juggernaut, Piledriver, Bloody-handed
Valiant: Everyman, Protagonist, Luckmeister, Fortunate, Chosen, Gifted, Fated, Relatable ( )
Must do work, maybe more later
I'm liking Scoundrel. How does that suit?GnomeBoy wrote:Re: Redeemable: What about Scoundrel, Knave, Scalawag, Hooligan, Hood, or Bounder?