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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by GnomeBoy » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:51 pm

Cool. I love Schmeter Cullen's art. :mrgreen:
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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by Judge Perky » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:35 am

Definitely would like to see fleshed out and additional deity descriptions (short is fine) adapted from the Gazeteer for DCC RPG use.

Love the additional 'Doom of the Savage Kings' bonus funnel/adventure idea to make it an even better value for those who already own multiple copies of the earlier versions.

Love the alphabetical spells idea.

I love sample combat sections that they used to have in the old school D&D games. How about one of those, showcasing the special skills of DCC RPG classes in action?

Would also be great to include an updated 'Appendix O' section... including Taco John's Index of 'Zine articles as of the printing date and stuff like that.
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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by Weisenwolf » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:48 am

I would like to beg that if there are limited edition incarnations could we have a few of them shipped over to the UK so I have a fighting chance of getting my hands on them please :P

I got the Jeff Easley and the Slipcover but the Wizard and the Gold foil couldn't be had here no matter how much STR, AGI & STA I spell burnt :twisted:

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by RevTurkey » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:30 am

Boxed set please. With individual booklets for major sections.

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by Weisenwolf » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:45 am

Judge Perky wrote:Love the alphabetical spells idea.
NOOooooooooooo

Please remove all alpahetic listings, equipment lists are better in logical groups of related items and spells by level; easier to read, easier to use, more atmospheric.

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by GnomeBoy » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:26 am

Weisenwolf wrote:
Judge Perky wrote:Love the alphabetical spells idea.
NOOooooooooooo

Please remove all alpahetic listings, equipment lists are better in logical groups of related items and spells by level; easier to read, easier to use, more atmospheric.
Except when you're trying to find a spell, can remember the name, but not the level. :wink:
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Kuruz, Mendicant, N • AC 8, 4 hp • R-1, F0, W0 • S9 A8 S9 P11 I16 L8
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Mercer, Outlaw, N • AC 12, 2 hp • R0, F-1, W1 • S7 A9 S6 P13 I8 L13
Dejah, Ropemaker, C • AC 10, 2 hp • R0, F1, W-1 • S8 A12 S15 P7 I11 L7

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by reverenddak » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:59 am

The spells are already listed in alphabetical order in the index. A separate list would be nice, but not necessary.
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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by Weisenwolf » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:43 pm

GnomeBoy wrote:
Weisenwolf wrote:
Judge Perky wrote:Love the alphabetical spells idea.
NOOooooooooooo

Please remove all alpahetic listings, equipment lists are better in logical groups of related items and spells by level; easier to read, easier to use, more atmospheric.
Except when you're trying to find a spell, can remember the name, but not the level. :wink:
Then perhaps an alphabetical index too?

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by BR_ » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:15 am

I would like to echo previous comments about multiple smaller books. I find the all-in-one megabooks unwieldy.

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by GnomeBoy » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:10 am

reverenddak wrote:The spells are already listed in alphabetical order in the index. A separate list would be nice, but not necessary.
Yeah, but it's still clunky to go to that page, still have to find the spell and then go to the spell's page itself. If the spells were alphabetical, I could just thumb quickly through that section and hit the spell I want. Plus, my Wizard-cover tends to stay on the shelf, and I'm using my first printing actively.

It's not really a big thing, it's just the ONE thing I feel is a mis-fire in the layout.
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Zend, Grave Digger, L • AC 9, 3 hp • R-1, F0, W1 • S14 A6 S9 P13 I13 L6
Mercer, Outlaw, N • AC 12, 2 hp • R0, F-1, W1 • S7 A9 S6 P13 I8 L13
Dejah, Ropemaker, C • AC 10, 2 hp • R0, F1, W-1 • S8 A12 S15 P7 I11 L7

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by Weisenwolf » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:16 pm

GnomeBoy wrote:
reverenddak wrote:The spells are already listed in alphabetical order in the index. A separate list would be nice, but not necessary.
Yeah, but it's still clunky to go to that page, still have to find the spell and then go to the spell's page itself. If the spells were alphabetical, I could just thumb quickly through that section and hit the spell I want. Plus, my Wizard-cover tends to stay on the shelf, and I'm using my first printing actively.

It's not really a big thing, it's just the ONE thing I feel is a mis-fire in the layout.
Maqking the Spells available in a seperate book would help........

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Post by Santa Barbarian » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:27 am

I want to make sure that what I like about the book is NOT thrown away. I like the current physical format of the book just fine. The heavy stock of the paper and the quality of the binding is delicious to feel. Part of the experience just like the artwork. If you're going to cut on the physical quality of what you already have, don't bother me with a new printing. The original cover itself has become almost iconic for me, too. Its part of how I recognize the book in a pile or on a shelf, just like the old Player's Handbook. Its also very beautiful work. That being said, a new cover is always nice especially with some Doug Kovacs work. You may want to include old covers as additional artwork if you're going to phase out the old cover. My suggestion is to NOT change it unless you make it better, as in more durable or water and bug resistant. I am finding the binding on the current edition I have has broken in and flexed and stretched so that it lays flat without any spiral binding. The quality of the book has held up so that it really does work without any other type of binding. I don't see a need for any change there.

Anything that would help people learn the game or find information quickly would be an improvement. My suggestion is to concentrate on physical things that would help someone either learn the game or look up something AND tactile or sensory things that help the feel of the game and book. Otherwise, why change it? Also, very long term would be an edition for bigger print. Some of the grognards are getting older and need glasses for reading. Not really necessary, but something I certainly would not have thought about 20 years ago. Durable tabs for each section might be a good suggestion, provided they can be made so they're durable or not likely to tear out. Maybe not tabs but an inclusion with printing. A new cover. Colored edges to delineate sections.

If you're doing the Kickstarter and edition issues are, well, not an issue, then I want things to help me recruit and teach the game. What can I hand them to put them at ease, capture their attention and get them ready to roll dice? One of DCC RPGs powerful strengths is its relative simplicity to learn compared to other RPGs. Try walking into a game store and looking at Pathfinder and asking, "How do I play this game?" It's daunting for me and I've played RPGs for 40 years. I remember questioning whether I had the time to learn a new edition and almost walking away when I came back to what was then D&D 3.5. A starting folio or booklet with sheets for each character class including zeroes, would be an example. It's basic, but the character sheet is what a new player who starts will look at along with the dice and a pencil and pen. Each sheet would have a class on it plus reference pages and notes on it for each entry. For example, a truly new person to the game might see hit points or class on the sheet and not know what they are. A page or reference number for each entry would be a great help. A check list for rolling up a character for the zero level and another for leveling up. I want things to help me recruit and teach people to play, make it as easy as possible for them to learn and for me to teach.

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Re: DCC RPG 4th printing: What do you want?

Post by heivilinj » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:37 am

I like the idea of the stay flat spiral bound and the tabs would be very useful.

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Post by Blutimate » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:17 am

I would like the book broken down into several volumes and spiral bound. I have a PDF version and have printed the resource guides and the class/judge sections and placed them into a binder, but it is still difficult to wield and lookup. I would like to be able to hand a wizard book to a player with all of the spells/charts/patrons he needs in one place and also hand a cleric a similar tome without having to give away the one or two books. I gave pages out from the binder but it demands a more elegant solution.

In my group, we rarely have more than 2-3 sourcebooks for each game, so this would be indispensable. I would be willing to pay more for this luxury.

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Post by Weisenwolf » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:41 am

Oh goodie; I'm in............................

.....................Limited Editions still available, not missing out this time, I can smell the leather already....................Yipppeeeeeeee :lol:

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Post by Weisenwolf » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:00 am

Over half funded already with 29 days to go

Bet it's funded before the weekends out

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Post by Weisenwolf » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:40 am

Over 2/3 funded now........

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Post by GnomeBoy » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:12 am

Over 100% funded. 8)
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Post by catseye yellow » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:13 pm

well that was quick. i am still on the fence since shipping is killing me and i already have blue and wizard cover editions. on the other hand, if it funds i would love to get my hands on those updated modules (especially since i only own stroh ones in dead tree version).

it would be nice to know if we'll be hit with some other ks soon after this one (like lankhmar or journey to the center of aereth).

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Post by Weisenwolf » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:55 am

Catseye, you just know come April you'll be gutted if you don't get your hands on a limited edition, don't put yourself through the anguish

Almost double funded now; think of all those stretch goodies....

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Post by catseye yellow » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:07 am

i'll probably do it. i really didn't like easly cover but this one rocks.

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Post by Weisenwolf » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:04 am

I wanted the Wizard cover but By the time I started looking there were none in my neck of the woods to be had. Despite the hefty shipping costs I'm not risking that happening again.

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Post by Blood Axe » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:58 am

Im thinking there are a lot of liars for the "First Time fan" pledge to get the extra adventure & swag. :? 320 pledgers and 140 are first timers....... :roll:
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Post by mythfish » Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:19 am

catseye yellow wrote:it would be nice to know if we'll be hit with some other ks soon after this one (like lankhmar or journey to the center of aereth).
I do not know the Dark Master's plans, but I think I recall hearing that the Mutant Crawl Classics KS would be happening near the end of the year. Maybe I heard that at the Gen Con What's New seminar? So I suspect that will be the next one that happens.
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