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DCC: Warhammer

Post by Thane » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:11 am

What do people think about using the DCC rules to run the Warhammer 'Enemy Within Campaign?' What with DCC not being tied to a setting, I think it would work a treat.

But are there any rules in the game for character insanity? My friend things this is important in the Warhammer world, and the campaign would be poorer without them.
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by rabindranath72 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:24 am

Thane wrote:What do people think about using the DCC rules to run the Warhammer 'Enemy Within Campaign?' What with DCC not being tied to a setting, I think it would work a treat.

But are there any rules in the game for character insanity? My friend things this is important in the Warhammer world, and the campaign would be poorer without them.
Insanity, diseases, dismemberment; these are the hallmarks of Warhammer, so I am not sure it would work with DCC without adding a hefty does of houserules.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Thane » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:37 am

rabindranath72 wrote:
Thane wrote:What do people think about using the DCC rules to run the Warhammer 'Enemy Within Campaign?' What with DCC not being tied to a setting, I think it would work a treat.

But are there any rules in the game for character insanity? My friend things this is important in the Warhammer world, and the campaign would be poorer without them.
Insanity, diseases, dismemberment; these are the hallmarks of Warhammer, so I am not sure it would work with DCC without adding a hefty does of houserules.
That's quite ironic, because you just described everything that I'd expect the DCC rpg to cover. If not with rules, then definitely with vibe.
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Warduke » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:47 am

rabindranath72 wrote: Insanity, diseases, dismemberment; these are the hallmarks of Warhammer, so I am not sure it would work with DCC without adding a hefty does of houserules.
Well the core book seems to have dismemberments in spades. :lol:

I think it could be done pretty easily. Assign a Terror stat to each monster (maybe 1 per HD?) and then make the PCs attempt a Will save (DC = 5 + Terror stat). After that you can just run with the Warhammer insanity rules (Cool test = Will save DC 15).

Enemy within is a great campaign. Be a shame to miss out on putting it to use.
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Warduke » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:50 am

We should totally start a thread in the house rules forums for DCC'hammer conversions.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by caveman » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:59 pm

I like to use Warhammer as my default for my campaign world. What would need converting? I guess insanity rules... maybe that's modeled by lack of luck? Make magic weapons cause chaos mutations? That would be wild.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by sbrndf11 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:19 pm

Has anyone done any Warhammer conversions or better yet, played them?

I'm working on converting some stuff from WFRP 1E; it is a little looser, more "in the spirit of" than anything hard.

The instability of DCC's magic system seems to be appropriate to re-imagine as an impact of Chaos. In doing some initial searches, a lot of forum members have drawn comparisons between the two RPGs already.

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Post by finarvyn » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:54 am

My son loves playing Warhammer (both Fantasy and 40K, actually) and I'm sure he would be thrilled to play DCC in the world of Warhammer.

I don't think I know enough about the world to do a good job of this, but maybe someone else can take a stab at it. Most of what I know about Warhammer is that they have lots of Dark Elves. (That's his army.) :P
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by ScrivenerB » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:49 am

I think it's an excellent fit, and have been actively working on setting something up. I'm planning on setting it earlier than the usual WFRP campaign--specifically, during the Age of the Three Emperors. The situation is more fluid, which seems right for DCC, and also this is before the empire established the magical colleges and essentially 'legalized' magic. This seems to work well with the fractious and fragmented nature of wizards in the DCC book.

I'm currently working on coverting the deities and writing up some spells for the clerics. I'll post what I have in a day or two.

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Post by sbrndf11 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:18 am

Cool, I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Do you intend to add insanity rules?

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Vanguard » Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:34 pm

I would love to collaborate on this project. I have the Enemy Within but haven't through it yet. I did, however, used to play a Sjaven army back in the day (and Orks in 40k).
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Colin » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:08 pm

DCC and TEW are great matches. In fact, with enough tweaks and changes, TEW can be run to great effect in many fantasy settings. I even ran it with Mongoose's OGL-based Lone Wolf RPG a few years back. Worked beautifully.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Apisfurioso » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:30 pm

ScrivenerB wrote:I think it's an excellent fit

I'm currently working on coverting the deities and writing up some spells for the clerics. I'll post what I have in a day or two.
cant wait to see it

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by ScrivenerB » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:29 pm

Here's what I have so far: link

This isn't 100% 'canon', I've changed some of the gods' portfolios a bit. My overall take on the situation, as presented in the opening paragraphs, is an attempt to reconcile DCC's Appendix N sensibilities (very Elric-ian, imo) with WFRP.

Let me know what you think. Or if the link doesn't work...
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by oktoberguard » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:20 pm

I agree that the Old World is a great fit with DCC... I dug out my WFRP 1E books in the hopes my players would want to keep playing once we finished the one-shot, and it looks like they're interested. I'd like to see what you've come up with for gods and spells, Scrivener... I have two clerics in the party... one of Taal and one undecided.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by sheriffharry » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:39 am

Great fan of The Enemy within also.

Maybe Insanity could easily be incorporated into the magic Corruption mechanism: minor, major, greater, and a new table: insanity corruption.

Seeing/interacting with certain monsters would provoke a DC Will check or suffer an insanity Corruption.
That way you don't really need a "new" mechanic as such.

just my 2 cents.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by toadlike » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:00 am

Warhammer Fantasy and DCC are a good match.

I'll share my personal take on a DCChammer campaign.

I'd run this Warhammer + DCC game as a "re-imagining" more than a conversion. I'd take some stuff I really like about the Warhammer world and I'd leave out the things that can get in the way from time to time. The Skaven, The Empire, Beastmen, and Chaos are in; Schools of Magic,the organized human religions, and the empire's "canonical" geography would be out.

I would avoid the Schools of Magic and the Cults of the Empire because more than likely they'll work against the adventuring party's cohesion as a group. Why would a Priest of Sigmar loot tombs with a rat catcher? why would a cloistered wizard from the School of Fire venture into the forest with a former toll keeper? Priests of Sigmar and Magicians make all the sense in the world in the Fantasy Battles game, where they wield immense levels of power; they kind of don't fit in the framework of a low-level adventuring party, particularly one composed of lowly fighters and thieves. That's why I'd do away with both organizations. Wizards would either be cultists or backwoods witches. Clerics would be crusaders.

I would forgo of The Empire's geography because it's easier to just come up with cities and towns on my own. :)

Again, that's just my take on it.

I'd have no problem playing a faithful Warhammer conversion. :mrgreen:
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Ynas Midgard » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:34 pm

toadlike's post seconded.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by sbrndf11 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:30 pm

ScrivenerB wrote:Here's what I have so far: link

This isn't 100% 'canon', I've changed some of the gods' portfolios a bit. My overall take on the situation, as presented in the opening paragraphs, is an attempt to reconcile DCC's Appendix N sensibilities (very Elric-ian, imo) with WFRP.

Let me know what you think. Or if the link doesn't work...
Looks good; are you aiming for a WFRP conversion or specifically Enemy Within?

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by ScrivenerB » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:07 pm

I had no real thought of Enemy Within, or really even of a WFRP "conversion", strictly speaking. More just using the warhammer world as a jumping-off point for a DCC setting. My idea is that setting the game at a time
a) prior to the magical colleges, when all arcane magic is basically illicit
b) during a period when the empire had largely ceased to function (three emperors) and localities were likely more isolated and more thrown on their own resources
it makes the whole thing a lot less WFRP like and a lot more D&D/DCC-like, and perhaps more amenable to the sort of things we're seeing published for DCC. I've also made some changes to the deities that not everyone is going to like, and am going with a much more Moorcock/DCC approach to law and chaos than warhammer takes (where Chaos is the big bad and Law is basically a curious footnote in the metaphysical scheme of things).

I understand that my approach isn't exactly what everyone, or probably even most people reading this thread, are necessarily interested in. But it's perhaps somewhat useful in any case. I'm going to focus on writing up the lower-level spells soon. I figure if I get this thing off the ground and it goes anywhere I can write up the higher levels ones as they become pertinent to the actual lives of the PCs.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by finarvyn » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:16 am

ScrivenerB wrote:Here's what I have so far: link

This isn't 100% 'canon', I've changed some of the gods' portfolios a bit.
Looks good to me, but as I said I don't really know Warhammer that well.

Now if you could just work out the Dark Elf stuff, my son would probably be hooked. :lol:
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by sbrndf11 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:06 pm

Has anyone written anything about converting monsters in to DCC? Actually any conversion guides would be useful here. This evening I've kind of been poking around at converting some generic stuff in to DCC, looking to try a few Warhammer monsters.

I searched the forum and Google briefly but nothing popped up.

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by Blood Axe » Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:42 pm

I have a lot of warhammer RPG books. Add some more dark peasant careers like sewer Jack, rat catcher,etc.
Get gunpowder rules.
Add the warhammer gods.
Change wizard class to colors. Red gets extra fire spells. Grey deals with illusion & deceit. Bonus to some spells while others are denied.
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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by 8bitjunkie » Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:47 pm

Would the gun powder weapon rules from the 1e DMG fit well?
I have to get home to get the details, it has been a long time since I consulted that table!

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Re: DCC: Warhammer

Post by ScrivenerB » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:03 pm

The DMG gun rules were for boot hill conversions. More 19th century technology than 16th.

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