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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by michaelcurtis » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:44 am

I seemed to have left out the duration for the spell check 14-17 effect of "Force Manipulation." Unless Joseph says otherwise, assume the disk lasts for 1d6 + CL turns.
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Thane » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:50 pm

Thane wrote:Page 36

Read languages: Interpreting simple meaning requires a DC 15 check. Interpreting anything more detailed is DC 20.

Is it really DC 15, or should it be DC 5?
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by shadewest » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:26 pm

Thane wrote:
Thane wrote:Page 36

Read languages: Interpreting simple meaning requires a DC 15 check. Interpreting anything more detailed is DC 20.

Is it really DC 15, or should it be DC 5?
Bump.
You're trying to glean meaning from a language you don't actually know. DC 15 is appropriate.

For instance, I speak French. I can kind of read Spanish and Italian because of that, but I get lost easily and can miss things like idioms.
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by romprecentor » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:47 pm

Page 149 Patron Bond table, no listing for 24-27 on the table.
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by claytonian » Sat May 05, 2012 7:31 am

kinda related: The PDF seems to lack table of contents entries for the Ghost. I don't mean not written on a table of contents page, but missing from the bookmarks menu or whatever it's called.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by romprecentor » Mon May 07, 2012 7:44 pm

Minor typo page 149:

14-17. ...mark of the patron on is hand.... Should read " on his hand"
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Aplus » Wed May 09, 2012 9:07 am

I'm not sure if this is a typo or not, but it sticks out.

On page 71, Table 3-1: Weapons
The garrote damage is listed as "1/3d4"

I just wanted to verify that it is correct, since no other weapons do only 1 point of damage, so it looks suspect.

Another one... I hope these aren't devolving into annoying rules questions.

Page 78, Table 4-1: Attack Roll Modifiers
Missile fire penalties are listed as -2 for medium range and -1d for long range.

Just wondering about this one because the averages for -2 and -1d are the same (in most cases)
1d20-2: Avg = 8.5
1d16: Avg = 8.5
Maybe the penalties are supposed to stack? Or maybe I'm just looking at these things too closely and need to get over it and move on.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by TheNobleDrake » Wed May 09, 2012 11:42 am

Aplus wrote:I'm not sure if this is a typo or not, but it sticks out.

On page 71, Table 3-1: Weapons
The garrote damage is listed as "1/3d4"

I just wanted to verify that it is correct, since no other weapons do only 1 point of damage, so it looks suspect.

Another one... I hope these aren't devolving into annoying rules questions.

Page 78, Table 4-1: Attack Roll Modifiers
Missile fire penalties are listed as -2 for medium range and -1d for long range.

Just wondering about this one because the averages for -2 and -1d are the same (in most cases)
1d20-2: Avg = 8.5
1d16: Avg = 8.5
Maybe the penalties are supposed to stack? Or maybe I'm just looking at these things too closely and need to get over it and move on.

The good news is that I'm coming across these as a result of updating my Reference Sheets document, so hopefully I'll have something for you guys soon!
There is a pretty significant difference you have missed:

Fumble chance: 1d20-2 has a 5% fumble chance, 1d16 has a 6.25% fumble chance
Critical chance: 1d20-2 has a 5% (or higher in the case of warriors) critical chance, 1d16 has a 0% critical chance in all range weapon cases that I have seen as of yet.

Also, it doesn't matter that the averages are the same if you have no other modifiers to your roll and are trying to hit a 17 or higher AC.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by reverenddak » Wed May 09, 2012 1:05 pm

Page 364 Magic Staff references a 2nd-level spell called Magic Staff, it's actually Wizard's Staff (pg. 199.)

(also note that Magic Wand & Magic Rod aren't in the core book.)
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by goodmangames » Wed May 09, 2012 1:26 pm

Aplus wrote:On page 71, Table 3-1: Weapons
The garrote damage is listed as "1/3d4"

I just wanted to verify that it is correct, since no other weapons do only 1 point of damage, so it looks suspect.
That one is correct -- a garrote isn't particularly effective except in a sneak-attack, in which case it's very effective!
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Aplus » Thu May 10, 2012 11:16 am

On page 90, the first result in the Trips and Throws table states:
The warrior can knock an enemy off-balance. The enemy gets a Ref save against the warrior’s attack roll. Failure means the enemy is knocked prone and must spend its next attack action standing up. Remember that melee attacks against a prone opponent receive a +4 bonus.
This conflicts with the attack modifiers table on page 78, which lists the bonus against a prone enemy as +2.
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Aplus » Thu May 10, 2012 2:59 pm

Crit Table G: Giants (page 389) under entry for 9:
must spend his next activation to stand
should be action
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by giant » Sat May 12, 2012 4:13 am

In table 1-1, characters with 18 intelligence can cast 6th level spells.

Unless of course this is foreshadowing . . . .

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by shadewest » Sat May 12, 2012 7:38 am

Aplus wrote:Crit Table G: Giants (page 389) under entry for 9:
must spend his next activation to stand
should be action
That means all actions the next round, in case some payers have multiple action dice, which they should by the time they're ready to face giants!
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Colin » Sat May 12, 2012 11:45 pm

Some very minor ones:

Page 22
Dwarven Mushroom-Farmer: Shovel should have (as staff) after it.
Dwarven Stonemason: Hammer should have (as club) after it.
Elven Glassblower: Hammer should have (as club) after it.
Elven Navigator: Bow should be Shortbow.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Colin » Sat May 19, 2012 8:06 am

Dungeon Crawl Classics RPG – Rules Errata (05/28/12)

Page 22, Occupations

Dwarven Mushroom-Farmer: Shovel should have (as staff) after it.
Dwarven Stonemason: Hammer should have (as club) after it.
Elven Glassblower: Hammer should have (as club) after it.
Elven Navigator: Bow should be Shortbow.

Page 36, Cast spell from scroll
Change the last sentence to:
The thief does apply Intelligence (but not Personality) modifiers to his roll, but may not attempt spellburn.

Page 42, Warrior, Weapon Training
Add Flail and Lance to the warrior's weapon training list.

Page 56, Elf, Weapon Training
Add Lance to the elf's weapon training list.

Page 77, Actions Example
"A 4th-level warrior with action dice of d20+d16..." should be "A 6th-level warrior with action dice of d20+d16..."

Page 90, Trips and Throws, result 3
+4 bonus should be +2 bonus.

Page 129, Animal Summoning, Manifestation
Roll 1d6 should be Roll 1d4.

Page 137, Ekim's Mystical Mask, Misfire
Roll 1d5 should be Roll 1d4.

Page 143, Force Manipulation Table
The duration for 14-17 is missing. It is 1d6+CL turns.

Page 149, Patron Bond Table
Results 24-27 are missing. These are:
When cast on self: The caster is considered an important person in his patron’s plans. He forms an agreement with his patron and is marked as one in the patron’s service. The caster learns the spell invoke patron as it relates to his patron and may cast it twice per day at a +1 bonus to the spell check. The patron also gives the caster a gift (for which a counter-gift is to be expected, of course). The gift is a single patron spell, selected from the patron’s spell list. The caster can cast this spell once per day in place of a casting of invoke patron. Each time he casts this patron spell or invoke patron, the caster is indebted to his patron, who will call in the debt at some point.

When cast on others: The caster forms a bond between his patron and the subject, who is very useful to the patron. The patron bestows a minor boon on the caster in the form of a +2 bonus on the next casting of invoke patron or a patron spell, and grants a minor boon to the subject in the form of a +1 bonus to his next action in the service of the patron. The subject receives a prominent mark of the patron on his hand or face, and may attempt a DC 16 Luck check once per month to ask a minor favor from the patron, which manifests in a non-magical manner. Each time such a Luck check is attempted there is a 1% cumulative chance that the patron asks for something in return. In addition, the patron sends followers to aid the subject’s natural actions. The followers consist of 1d4+1 warriors, each of level 1d3. All bear the mark of the patron. The warriors serve with absolute loyalty (no morale checks are ever required) and ask for nothing in return save adherence to the principles of the patron. The caster is viewed favorably for bringing more followers to his patron; for every 10 followers recruited and bonded, he receive a +1 bonus to future patron bond and invoke patron checks (max +5 bonus).

Page 364, Magic Staff
This references a 2nd-level spell called Magic Staff, it's actually Wizard's Staff (pg. 199).
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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Colin » Sat May 19, 2012 1:58 pm

Frequently Asked Questions (05/19/12)
Q: Are bugbears, goblins, hobgoblins, and troglodytes really supposed to be Lawful?

A: Yes.

Q: Is the number of Known Spells listed for wizards and elves a maximum or minimum?
A:
Known Spells is the maximum number of different spells that the character of that level can cast, modified by the Intelligence modifier (see page 18).
Patron bond and invoke patron count as a single spell; other patron spells aren't part of this "package deal" and count as their own individual spell slots.
Certain other circumstances may affect a wizard's known spells (e.g., the spell arcane affinity which is basically a mechanic for wizard specialization).

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Rick » Sun May 27, 2012 5:05 pm

Found a minor one in play today:

Page 129, Level 1 Wizard spell Animal Summoning -- Under Manifestation, it says "Roll 1d6", but there's only results for 1-4.

Obviously, it was easily resolved (I rolled a d4) and play marched on.

I looked for any similar errors and found one on page 137, Ekim's Mystical Mask -- Under Misfire it says "Roll 1d5" yet there's only results for 1-4.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Colin » Sun May 27, 2012 11:35 pm

Thanks, I updated my compiled errata above.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by rabindranath72 » Mon May 28, 2012 12:30 am

RADColin, are those errata "official"?


I spotted a few more problems:
1) p20 Demihumans are said to speak their racial tongue only if they have Int 8+, but elsewhere the text is not clear, and it seems they speak them automatically.

2) p32 Otyughs are mentioned in Turn Unholy, but I can't find any references.

3) Does the Thief getting the modifier to Intelligence mean that he can only cast Wizard spells?

4) p57 Luck: the wording is not appropriate, or the description is wrong since the Luck modifier can be negative (so after all those years of practicing, they still get the spell wrong?)

5) p.60 Halflings lack the Slow characteristic like Dwarves (as elsewhere it's mentioned they move 20'.)

6) p.61 Large part of the page is empty. Was something meant to be there?

7) Table 3-5 in the Equipment chapter: what's the purpose of the Weight column? No other equipment has weight listed, and the Barding refers to weight of normal sized armor which doesn't exist.

8) p.82 last entry of the table an Helm is mentioned, but there is none in the equipment lists, and it's not clear whether helms are part of armor or not. Not sure Helms are mentioned elsewhere.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Colin » Mon May 28, 2012 2:39 am

rabindranath72 wrote:RADColin, are those errata "official"?
They are a compilation of Joseph's errata post at the start of this thread, as well as his responses (and one of Michael Curtis' r.e. the duration of Force Manipulation, which he wrote) in this and other threads.

Only the two I just added on 127 and 139 haven't been "officialized" yet.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by rabindranath72 » Wed May 30, 2012 5:05 am

Some other points needing clarification/correction

1) Mounted Combat. It's specified that trained characters get +2 to the roll, but there are already training rules, by which a trained character rolls d20, an untrained one rolls d10.

2) Undead are specified as being immune to hold. But there is no hold spell.

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by Dagonazrael » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:20 am

I have encountered some disagreement as to whether this is an error or not, but it is certainly not clear, so I will post here:

Do we track the change in luck bonuses for e.g. fumble modifier, when players burn and gain luck?

I know the luck bonus for special ability is fixed at level 0, and I thought this applied to all uses of luck, but then I read on p110 that for mercurial magic tables, you use wizard's luck modifier 'at the time the wizard learns the new spell...'

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by thogard » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:13 pm

Page 102, first paragraph. "Magnus rolls 15" should be "Athle rolls 15".

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Re: Stomp the typo!

Post by d(sqrt(-1)) » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:34 am

Warrior (p42) under Critical Hits seems to have some text missing. It says that at 1st to 3rd level a warrior scores a critical hit on a natural roll of 19-20. The threat increases to 17-20 at 9th level.
Apart from the missing information about levels 4-8, this doesn't really agree with the table on p44 which says that a Warrior has a threat range of 19-20 for levels 1-4 (well, except you could argue that 1-3 is a subset of 1-4 and hence still correct...). I assume that the table is correct here.

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