Mintaro wrote:I will mention the video on their site again. The guy is a bit nutty in it, but it has some very blatant visuals showing the difference between his precision dice and the dice you tend to find everywhere else.
Trust me when I say the scuffs are worth the trouble. Go to the local store and pick up a metal nail file and some Emery Boards. Use the Metal file to get the spurs down low, and finish off with the emery board. The resulting die (even with its scuffs) will still be a far more accurate die than anything that has been through a rock tumbler.
You missed my point completely in your rush to try and educate people.
1) Seen the vids, know the rhyme and reason, am not a newbie to GS dice at all.
2) I own multiple older GS standard sets. In fact *all* of my dice are precision dice. They are not as shoddy as the newly produced sets. Quality in production or quality control appears to have dropped dramatically.
3) This is especially true of the d24 and to a lesser extent the d16 and d14 too. They are all badly scratched/gouged, and have terrible sprue remnants.
These are not mere *scuffs*. These are not the normal sprue remnants either, which I'm used to filing down. I'm talking about spiraling scratches and gouges across multiple faces. I'm talking about several scratches across several faces. I'm talking about gouges where they cut part of the dice out when they cut it from the sprue.
4) I've even seen standard GS polyhedrals, newer ones, that have real issues: concave surfaces, gouges, bubbles.
My key question was this:
If the dice is gouged/scratched badly on several faces (unbalancing the dice) and has a sprue remnant that's more difficult to remove without damaging the dice (which can also unbalance and bias the dice), is the dice really going to be any more *precise* than a tumbled dice? I'd be hard pressed to say "Yes."
Given what you pay, I feel like you're taking a crap-shoot buying GS dice these days, and frankly, that's not acceptable to me. If they're manufactured and checked correctly (reduced remnant, no concaves surfaces, no bubbles, no cracks/gouges/scratches), they're absolutely fantastic. Unfortunately, that *if* seems to have become much more of an issue than it was previously.
I haven't got any Koplow dice; what're folks thoughts on 'em?