I am excited about Crime Pays

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Being 100% honest...how "system-transparent" is this product?

I no longer support 4th edition in any way, but I do support 1) Goodman Games and 2) crime in my fantasy game.

Can I port over the essentials to 3.x/Pathfinder/DCC RPG...?
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Ogre,

It is Mrs. Stroh's birthday tonight, but I'll put together a page analysis for you tomorrow.

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Hey, man, don't get in trouble with the wife! Take your time. :D

Doesn't need to be extensive--I just want to be sure I can buy this book without getting "4th edition taint" on me. :lol:
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Hi Harley,

Any advance info you can give us 4e players too?

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Esteemed Coves, Bravos and Maunders,

The best analysis is thumbing through the book at your local brick & mortar and seeing if it is something that might inspire you as a DM. Much of the meat is system neutral, but there are also a LOT of 4e stats provided. (Answering every DM’s burning question: How many hp does that harlot have, anyway?)

Page count wise we are looking at:

2 -16, Intro and mob mechanics. System-neutral.

17 - 21, Crime mechanics. 3.x - 4e bias. You would need to be comfortable with the concept of a target DC.

22 - 29, Stats for thief-takers of all sorts. 4e.

30 - 38, “Random” events. System-neutral.

39 - 40, Mob war mechanics. 4e.

41 - 50, Campaign seeds. System-neutral.

51 - 70, Adventure seeds for the 3 tiers. 4e stats.

71 - 78, Made men, stats for mob NPCs. 4e.

79 - 82, Vulgar Tongue, a thieves’ cant dictionary. System-neutral.

83 - 90, Slum geomorphs. System-neutral.

91 - 92, Neighborhood generator. System-neutral.

93 - 94, Crime Templates, Boon generator, mob record sheets. System-neutral.

So, certainly not 100% system transparent.

However, if stats are the hurdle, I’d be happy to write up a conversion for the DCC RPG. (It helps that it would take, tops, an afternoon.) I need to finish off the next two adventures but after that I could take a little time to make the conversion doc.

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Ogrepuppy wrote:I just want to be sure I can buy this book without getting "4th edition taint" on me. :lol:
pfft -- A couple saves and you're cured. No big whoop.

Also, even though I have no outlet for using this book for the next year or so, (seeing the breakdown on what's in it) I'm getting more and more interested!
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This looks very good! When will we get it in the UK?

Or is there a PDF now?

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GnomeBoy wrote:A couple saves and you're cured. No big whoop.
No, sir. With all due respect to you, my friend Gnomie, I will never embrace 4th edition. I tried--for two long years I tried repeatedly--to love those rules, but I can't.

Anybody wanna buy some gently used 4th edition rule books? [/thread derail]
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richgreen01 wrote:This looks very good! When will we get it in the UK?

Or is there a PDF now?
Rich,

Thank you for your interest!

Joseph sent the book to print a couple weeks ago. Then it is off to distributors and stores. Around the time the book hits the shelves he'll make the pdf available.

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Ogrepuppy wrote:No, sir. With all due respect to you, my friend Gnomie, I will never embrace 4th edition. I tried--for two long years I tried repeatedly--to love those rules, but I can't.
Understood (with a crazier amount of emphasis than the forum code will allow).

...But you're not better now??? I was sure you had a higher Con than that, Ogre...
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I shook off the 4th edition dominate person effect and seem to be rapidly recovering. As part of my therapy, I play lots of 3.5/Pathfinder/Trailblazer in an attempt to bring me 'back from the brink' as it were.

Now, let's see....where was that Cthulhu mythos tome I was reading...?

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*closes and pulls Unausprechlichen Kulten out from behind opened Justice League comic*

...I was keeping it warm for you...
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GnomeBoy wrote:Unausprechlichen Kulten
Of all the ones you could choose.... :twisted:

Damn, you really are me under a different screen name....
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Ogrepuppy wrote:...you really are me under a different screen name....
I was just thinking the same thing! :twisted:
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Harley Stroh wrote:I’d be happy to write up a conversion for the DCC RPG. (It helps that it would take, tops, an afternoon.) I need to finish off the next two adventures but after that I could take a little time to make the conversion doc.
Player: "I'm doing something illegal."
GM: Ponders actually thumbing though Crime Pays rulebook. "Okay. Roll dice."
Player: "I got a 14!"
GM: "You're dead. Want to play again?"

The above represents my own DCC RPG conversion. Took me about a minute and you wanted to spend an afternoon on this? What, you get paid by the hour? :P
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finarvyn wrote:
Harley Stroh wrote:I’d be happy to write up a conversion for the DCC RPG. (It helps that it would take, tops, an afternoon.) I need to finish off the next two adventures but after that I could take a little time to make the conversion doc.
Player: "I'm doing something illegal."
GM: Ponders actually thumbing though Crime Pays rulebook. "Okay. Roll dice."
Player: "I got a 14!"
GM: "You're dead. Want to play again?"

The above represents my own DCC RPG conversion. Took me about a minute and you wanted to spend an afternoon on this? What, you get paid by the hour? :P
:P

But which die? Was that a d14? d16? These things take time!

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Harley Stroh wrote:But which die?
All of them die, of course. TPK! :lol:
Harley Stroh wrote:Was that a d14? d16? These things take time!
Oh ... that kind of die. :wink: Clearly I hadn't thought through the entire design process.
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LOL...love the "DCC RPG conversion" and dice conversation. :)

Crime Pays just shipped from the printer...with distributor transit times and such, it will hit stores early April. I will post an exact date once we have the book in the warehouse and some distributor orders on hand.
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goodmangames wrote: Crime Pays just shipped from the printer...with distributor transit times and such, it will hit stores early April. I will post an exact date once we have the book in the warehouse and some distributor orders on hand.
Will there be a PDF too?


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Yes, there will be a PDF as well, releasing the same time as the print book.
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goodmangames wrote:Yes, there will be a PDF as well, releasing the same time as the print book.
Thanks!

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Just wanted to let you know -- Crime Pays is moving through the distributors now and will be in stores the week of April 26.
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Any possibility that the Crime Templates and Mob Sheets might be available for download?
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Good idea. You can download them now from this link...we'll get the product page updated soon:

http://www.goodman-games.com/downloads/ ... plates.pdf
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Awesome! Thanks!
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